But the paper covering the entire sheet of drywall is typically not smooth. The mud smooths out the wall, primer will coat the entire wall, and then the paint will stick to the primer. I love paragraph 4! realized it’s new to me. Thanks so much for doing the legwork on this! Once the first skim coat is complete, let the joint compound dry for 24 hours. Yes, there are manual sanders designed for this. I guess that using a oi-based primer over a water based primer over the final skim coat would give some measure of moisture protection, but I am not sure that it would. The build up on the corners is pretty awful looking but I’m hoping it will sand to a nice corner? Thin it down to how you like to float, about pudding or so. I’m going to try and skim the walls. First of all, we should start by clearing up a myth:  most drywall by itself is not smooth. If you have really heavily texture patterns, the first coat will not produce perfectly smooth walls. https://www.familyhandyman.com/project/how-to-skim-coat-walls If a whole wall is being done, then it's best to do it in halves, dividing walls horizontally down the middle. The screens attach to either hand or pole sanders, and you can also buy kits that attach to standard shop vacs to keep the dust level down. Rinse the sponge every few minutes and ring it out well. As hard as I tried to get the wallpaper off evenly, and really I DID, and I think it would have been a LOT worse without the removal product I found, the hard truth is that I’m working with old drywall. Either way, the paint peeled, and the way I’ve learned to prevent it is to seal it with Gardz or a quality oil-based primer. Embarrassing! If using a shiny or sheen paint (any other than flat) you will need a flat or acrylic primer 1st then apply the sheen 2 coats. The house is falling down. Also keep a mud pan and a damp rag handy. A wall in our home was covered with what appeared to be mirrors. Think of primer as a precursor to paint. I have diluted and put down the toilet and have also tried cleaning my tools outside although I don’t think dumping it down the sewer drain is the most environmentally friendly method. Feel free to get in touch with Interior drywall solutions in Auckland today. Thank you! I actually hadn’t thought about getting taping knives of different sizes. $1 dollar, also buckets for mixing, clean up etc. Grab your oil-based primer and use it to seal your walls once more, then paint it with whatever you want. Wallpaper on the ceiling sounds ROUGH. I’m putting them to use today. Skim coat is a thin coat of joint compound also known as mud. This is truly helpful! A slight hit that would not leave a mark on painted drywall, creates gouges and we have to do something. In a clean bucket we pour skim coat which is in powder form, and we add about 10% water of the skim coat mass. BEFORE to lock any wallpaper glue residue to the wall that might prevent your joint compound from sticking, and AFTER to penetrate your joint compound and harden it so your paint isn’t just sticking to a layer of joint compound dust. because if you wipe your skim coated wall with a damp cloth, it’s going to mess it all up, yes? I'm think of buying and cutting drywall for practice. Removing the tile itself gave me a break down. I used regular all-purpose drywall, not the lightweight compound – I’m not sure if this makes too much of a difference or not. P.S. Thanks Sarah for this wonderful and helpful post! I chose a hand/pole combo sander so that I have the option to use a pole extension for the ceiling areas, and also a comfortable and controllable grip to get the areas closer to the floor. I hope it works out for you! This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. This post was exactly what I needed!! Am thinking to skim coat, then spray on orange peel oil based texture, more primer and paint. Thank you for TOTALLY MAKING MY DAY with your comment :). I’m so glad you found this post helpful, Cheryl! Ensure to overlap each vertical pass, until you finish each section. It’s been a few years since I wrote this post, so I highly recommend reading this update with even more advice on preventing bubbles in the drywall paper, good sealing products, tools that cut down dust, and finding the right primer before painting. You can do a skim coat to smooth out damaged walls with. This is long overdue: THANK YOU!! Go slow at first until you are more familiar with the motions of each stroke. I like tearing my house apart and putting it back together again. Great advice! Sorry to hear about your guy not following through… sometimes you look at someone else’s work and you just know you could have done a better job on your own! If someone didn't skim after removing wallpaper and the wall is bumpy because they didn't smooth certain areas, you could either try sanding the wall a fine grit sandpaper sponge (depending on how extensive the surface is damanged) and repainting or you'll have to skim over the areas, smooth down, and prime and paint. The right tools are the difference between getting half of a wall done in two nights versus three in one night. Under paint you write “Even the nicest paints will have trouble sticking to new mud. If the situation is intolerable, an oil based primer or PVA will toughen it up, but if you use PVA, you’ll have to find some paint that will stick to it. This side should be the one to apply the mud to the surface. So if you’re just skimming out dings from moving furniture use the Purple/ Light Green. It was plastic with a silver paper backing. This tutorial is more meant for beginners who won’t yet have that kind of skill, but thanks for the tip about the roller application… going to have to try that next time! Therefore, if you are a contractor who has given up on wall skimming and you may prefer to hire a professional taper for this job. I'm in the middle of mudding my bathroom walls after removing wallpaper. But before you apply any joint compound, make sure that the sealer is dried thoroughly. Keep up the good work. Skim coating is the process of applying thin layers of drywall joint compound (mud) across sections of, or the entirety of, a wall or ceiling. Depending on the amount of space you wish to have skim coated, paying a professional can cost up to several thousand dollars. At an angle, press the knife against and down the wall, leaving a thin layer of compound on the drywall. …understanding different compounds and the how’s and why’s helps as well… Make you paneled walls as smooth as drywall by skim-coating them. (*Note:  some of these photos have been darkened to enhance the difference between the wet mud and wall – it’s hard to see off-white on white*), Add Sound-Dampening Drywall without Removing the Old, there’s another post about that where I recommend one that isn’t oil-based, Keeping your tools clean and ready for the next job is an important step that should not be missed. By adding skim coating, you ensure that the paint will be absorbed evenly for the best look. Good luck! The walls turned out great, in fact compared to the rest of the walls in my 100+ year old house, they are the nicest! Skimming the rough or damaged surfaces with a coat of mud using a special squeegee knife leaves a smooth finish on the walls. I love hearing when people are using my tutorials to fix their homes! I have done this mant times and have never been disappointed with the outcome. I wanted to know what helpful tips that you have for clean up? Well, lets say the living room was easy because the walls were prime before. I am SO going to start using this line… I hope that okay! Once dry, the wall can be painted, wallpapered and otherwise decorated as normal. Unless otherwise stated, all images owned by Sarah Fogle & the Ugly Duckling House. Big mistake I have made is that I haven’t properly thinned the joint compound. Using a small bucket with clean water, wet and wring out the sponge. So if you want to keep your walls pristine after all of that hard work, don’t skimp on the last step! Luckily, my kids love me, so they don't complain about their drywall bathroom :). Here you’ll find contractor-sized buckets of lightweight joint compound – simple, plainly labeled, and surprisingly cheaper. You’re making me realize I should create a new post about cleanup (I’m skimming my garage this summer so I’ll have a good opportunity to take video and pictures of that), so thanks for the post idea! Thanks a million! Learn how your comment data is processed. And to answer the skim coating question, if the brown part isn't *too* gouged, you might be ok to just do the texture over the top, since it's supposed to be uneven anyway. Also it is nailed up so it would be hard to take off and get new dry wall. The men at Home Depot & Lowes were great but I left both places thinking I am so dumb. Skim coating is a texturing technique used to make a wall smooth. Thanks! but, the dining room is another story. To keep the joint compound in tip-top shape for your next use, just get rid of the left over amount. I’m skim-coating my dining room ceiling this weekend… wish me luck. Thanks! As you will need to apply 2-3 coats and let each one the coats dry in between. The more smooth the wall is, the less sanding you will require to do. I’ve tested it out in various places on the wall, and so far it’s miles above traditional sandpaper or blocks. Here is a new and easy to master the approach for smoothing out damaged or rough walls. I totally revamped my dining room plans and switched out for custom paint colors to get the same blue you have in yours…waaaayyyy better thany original plan. This easy step-by-step tutorial shows you how to skim coat damaged drywall after wallpaper removal (with my favorite products that make things easier!). If you have a good drill get a paddle mixer andmix a whole bucket at one time. And I’ll do my best to answer (based on my personal experience, though of course I’m not a pro! Here’s a list of all the important materials: You will probably prefer to use a hawk and trowel for skimming walls, if you are an experienced drywall taper or plaster. A contractor might give you a free quote if you would like to get their input on what you should do. I too have been struggling to skim coat areas of water damaged walls and ceiling in two bathrooms. I Googled, “how to re-mud a wall” and I was happy to see this about fixing damaged drywall, not just mudding new drywall. Once I applied the mud, it stuck like glue. It went over skim so surprisingly well I flipped. The ‘H’ is for DECORATION!” In this video I'll show you how to do the first coat of two skim coats on a wall to get rid of a knockdown texture. Its good to see you figured it out. Way to Go! You rock. Just ensure that the next coat you to mix is a little thicker, you can do this by spooning in some more mud from another bucket. This helps tremendously. Leave the compound to set properly, before you before you start skimming the walls. Just knock off the lumps or mud lines by using a 5 or 6-inch putty knife to prevent streaks in the next coat. Your frustrated ranting from yours truly lesson for this week is skim coating damaged drywall. Day 2- scape any high spots with your 6″ drywall knife and then apply another skim coat to the area. You can’t just slap it on and expect a smooth finish in the end. Read my complete disclosure here. Good tip! =P. because the previous owners put wallpaper up in most-every room, including our 80-100% humid bathrooms! Thanks much! is that right? On Family Handyman they recommended a roller. (Though I was frightened at first, it didn’t automatically self level for 12 hours.) Thank you so much for your tips!!! until you get it right. Amy. In some places it's peeling up like paint. Skim coating walls is different than just painting walls, but you will use some of the same tools, like a paint roller for instance. First, grab a bucket of joint compound and stir with an electric drill, until you feel that it is entirely smooth. Make sure to smoothen the mud by using a squeegee knife. UPDATE: For those of you who like a list, here’s a list (with links to Amazon, which I’d make a few cents off of if you purchased direct for the referral, but it really doesn’t earn me much more than a few cups of coffee! We removed wallpaper from our kitchen walls only to find plaster, drywall, and I swear what looked like sandpaper underneath! You can also use these tools as second hand. I O-ficially love your site! The good news to ceiling work is that you don’t have to seek perfection like you do walls for a few reasons: if there’s lighting in the ceiling observers will be “blinded” by the light, and they make ceiling paint which hides imperfections, however use decent ceiling paint…ceiling paint is FLAT paint which is whit w/ some black added to it to absorb light which hides small imperfections. Regardless, I’m certainly delighted I That peeling could be due to painting over areas that still had glue residue (but I'm only guessing). Thank you again, I never would have been able to do it without you! You’ll want to continue doing this across the wall, but since the mud is impressionable until it cures, be careful not to overlap the edges of your various passes across the same wall or else find yourself working to fix a patch of wall you were already done with. We have a pretty good sized hole in our living room wall and “no one knows where it came from.” I don’t really know a lot about doing the repair myself so I might leave this one to the professionals. The premixes have different strengths, if you’ve repaired a large hole or taped a fresh seam then you should use Green top as the initial base coat as it is hard to sand because it is most solid, then “top coat” or skim w/ the Blue or Purple or Light Green (purple/ light green are ultralights that sand well, my favorites). I’ve been there. For more on photo licenses and other use permissions, click here (in true UDH style, it’s actually kind of fun and snarky to read). I can do this. Scoop the right amount of joint compound (about 2″ thick and wide) onto the taping knife, and apply it to the textured wall. In the drywall aisle you should be able to find a large closed cell sponge, about the size of 2″x3″x8″long. Skim coating is the best way to achieve a smooth, level 5 drywall finish. But if you want to save your money, clear up the confusion, and feel more like a pro (who doesn’t? I am removing wall paper and a lot of the dry wall underneath is getting gouged. I'm in my 20s and just started learning how to do home improvements, so thank you so much for documenting this stuff. I’m trying to smooth and paint interior bulkheads on my boat so am using a different type of putty but the technique is essentially the same. I recently brought a house and thought taking the wallpaper down was going to be a breeze. Fantastic, Denise! I bought most of the materials for less than $75 before I started getting cold feet! What started as a routine wallpaper removal ended up as a drywall paper removal also. We have wallpaper behind the fixtures. Thanks for sharing your processes – love the details. Make sure to mix all-purpose joint compound in about the same consistency as mud that you would use for bedding the tape. thank you. Do you think this will work, or will it slump off the walls one fine day? Then I found your posts. Ha. These walls will be coated with BASE-COAT PLASTER. I wound up discovering a water-based, low odor peel stop sealer (with a weird name) that performed far better. 100 points to, I eventually got the hang of timing my evening right so that I wouldn’t have leftover mud, but if you wind up with some. SO helpful! Thanks! You give such good lessons. Is there anything that can be done to make the walls smooth if paint was applied before skimming? Skim coating takes time and effort. 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