It is from this Light Soul that we have all the modern forms of soul-power, all significant, transferable condensations of this incredible energy, and the root energy used in all magic-proper afterwards. So without that, humans could live as humans. Email. The First Flame comes into being in an inexplicable manner analagous to the Big Bang. It is a force that can be harnessed, but while initially weak, is unique in that it can expand. But the Age of Dark, proceeding from the Age of Flame, has thus Disparity baked into it. The Light Soul was the unbridled soul power of the Lord Soul now uncontained. Thus began the age of men, the Age of Dark. Its as if the Lord Soul had an outer skin on its flame that was removed. The Dark Soul, being alive, has want. My theory that the magic-generated lightning of the gods being inspired from some natural part of the mushrooms is barely supported by Dark Souls flavor texts, only in the sense that mushrooms can drop golden pine resin. I know people say that Untended Graves is how an age of dark would look like, but I'm not convinced. age of fire just comes with an another fading flame which just make undeads suffering from this endless pain again. "After the advent of fire, the ancient lords found the three souls. Basicaly the Age of Dark is an Age without the Flame and some Hollows aim to be strong enough to sustain it, following Gwyns image. This single action annihilates the city with men's corruption, with Lifedrain they can now drain the very internal humanity sprite, with it the inner darkness and pure power of its border, of other humans. The blood lifeforms could perish normally. It can be hard to envision the Age of Dark because we have no real reference point for it, but it certainly would be dark in a literal sense: the sun and the First Flame are linked, and when the First Flame goes out so does the sun. At least one oddball possesses an agenda to prevent the natural march of time and restore and maintain the Age of Fire as long as possible. Also, the dead Fire Keeper you loot the Eyes off of, if you talk to Ludleth before you give them to her he talks about the dead one in a personal tone. " This has the effect of them losing their "humanity", over multiple reanimations they will lose their sanity and memory. Dark Souls 3. Dragon Age - Inquisition: high budget disappointment, wasn't even able to … However, it can do these things to an extent, as this life can reproduce and consume each other. Someone who wont be easily defeated, so an Age of Fire couldnt happen again. We should have a dark souls lore sub. The other Lord Souls and forms of fire are not alive, they merely allow the growth of life in the dark. In a way, I have just now shot myself in the foot before I have even begun, by discrediting the possibility of my theory being a "true answer.". ". Men help in the battle! And the Abyss is born of Humanity. I am in particular a fan of the interconnected level design of the first half, something that is not repeated in future games, and the lore, particularly the beginning cutscene. Nito was an amalgamation of skeletons, with root skeleton being giant, reanimated by one Lord Soul, which he claimed and became a Lord. It was a great read. Initially, they are one, which I claim to be an ordinary Lord Soul, perhaps the only one left. The Dark Souls series is a self-contained kind of difficulty that requires self-contained practice, even for the most veteran of gamers, and those of … It is given incredible power from what he and his race has harnessed, and can pierce the dragons. His existence before the First Flame I cannot assert due to this. He goes to the kiln of the First Flame, which is a ritualistic site with quasi-physical placement in the universe where he can attempt a kindling of it. They were sparks of raw power that could be used, among other things for magic. Unlucky cursed ones, often put in asylums, for one reason or another they could not be satiated by Nito's global ritual. The Dark Soul, although paling in comparison to what the Lord Souls and the Light Soul has given the rest of the blood-life, has an undying, heretical existence in the universe. Fantastic job! The Deep is a concept inDark Souls III. I am not aware of there being a source for Lightning being a secret weakness of the Everlasting dragons given by Seath as part of his treachery. In the Age of Ancients the world was unformed, shrouded by fog: a land of gray crags, Archtrees and Everlasting Dragons. It leads to an impurity of the dark not even seen previously, but its power is still largely contained, becoming a more long-term issue. In fact, I am rather easily convinced that this is true. The reproduction in particular is certain, for the Witch of Izalith had daughters. I claim this to be the same "Twinkle" erupting from the Twinkling Dragon Stones of Dark Souls 3, though I will be de-emphasizing references to Dks 3 in this post. Gwyn places a seal of fire on the pygmies, who believe it a mark of blessing. In this era, the world was ruled by the Everlasting Dragons. The Age of Ancients: Before the First Flame. Anton Kokarev's artwork is good, mind you.It has an unnerving realism balanced against odd imagery and … In writing this post, it came down even to exact phrasing to form an interpretation, such was the density of the opening passage. The breakthroughs in development correspond with realization of a Lord Soul. The inner darkness remains sealed by fire. The untended graves isn't a "age of dark" thing. Longer, more ridiculous version: Seath is a mutant of the Everlasting Dragons made of flesh, born that way or otherwise mutated from a normal one after the First Flame came into being. I love hearing peoples different interpretations. Also, I believe the smaller ones breed faster and die faster. The dark is ultimately staved off by primordial fire, which is the nature of the seal. Heat and cold, life and death, and of course, light and dark. For Dark Souls on the Xbox 360, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "The Truth: The Age of Fire and The Age of Dark". I've always seen it as basically our age, here in the real world. The moon coming to represent the remains the first flame after life was created, it was a cool light that illuminated the above world, and it remained strongly in the memory of Seath as an obsession, and perhaps is the source of Midir's memory stated in Old Moonlight. This is the water found in Ash Lake, and it is from this water, which we do not claim has a bottom necessarily, that the Archtrees rise up from. I am decently inclined to believe they have ancient origins from their growth throughout, and towards the bottom, of the great hollow. Hot New Top. I find it thematically pleasing to assume nothing even moved. I have a question does age of fire limit abyss or something? It is possible he is some way spawned from this. The humanity sprite within each of the first men is alive, in the same description I have used for the Dark Soul. One of those being the age of dark. Greedfall - yes, it is a bit janky in some places and fairly low budget, but the rpg experience is far better than expected, combat is good too. It is alive. Any questions feel free to ask, any sources needed Same thing. The Age of Ancients: The War with the Dragons. Be the first to till this fertile land. The seal of fire causes a distinct problem. The humanoid ones come in variable sizes, and incorporate the primeval men, which I claim to be the hollow-like humanoids rising out of nothing aimlessly in the intro, and what is ultimately kin to the primeval man but larger and perhaps generally less intelligent, giant men (Giants). They are sprites with will and tinged with soul-energy (their white border), but are built up of darkness. Gwyn as the lord of Sunlight was unrivaled in his Power and the Darkstalker and the Sabled Church of Londor want to create a Lord of Hollows to guide man kind through these Times. Dark Souls is the new action role-playing game from the developers who brought you Demon’s Souls, FromSoftware. Really neat fan theory! This is why the Everlasting Dragons were immortal and their descendants aren't. The Dark Soul is darkness contained and defined by light, it begins small and weak, but expands unnaturally. When they die, they die. It was when all Lords enflamed their Lord Souls did they gain the strength to challenge the ancient winged deities. As such he was a part of blood-life's earliest civilization, a being that watched over burial rites and customs. I like to believe that by being blood, these beings carried within themselves some of this serene, peaceful water of Ash Lake, having it as their birthplace in the very beginning. Bonfires and Mistle Are the Same Bonfires are one of the core pieces of Dark Souls ' design, giving players a much-needed respite, as well as a chance to restore their healing items. Sounds like the Age of Fire, just with no sun. I am opening an official modding community for the Age of Fire Mod for DARK SOULS. Nito, the first of the dead, the Witch of Izalith, and her Daughters of Chaos, Gwyn, the Lord of Sunlight, and his faithful knig… Furthermore, the nature of crystals here would suggest the nature of him birthing modern sorcery as soul-power made "solid", the crystal apex of the soul spells being particularly piercing and tangible. Covenants are optional factions that players can join in the Dark Souls series. What would an age without the First Flame actually look like? There is so much out there, New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. In truth, the Age of Dark would be very similar to the Age of Grey, albeit there would be some differences. Gwyn notes the insatiable, undying dark power within humanity. It was during this time that the Lord Souls were found, near the First Flame. Very interesting read! Cheers mate, I saved this for next time I have time to read a book. However! If not, it will prove to be cruel, overly-punishing, hopeless torment. Near whatever remained of the First Flame (if there was anything left), but not in it (important distinction elaborated upon in developer interview), we had these things called Lord Souls. Age of Dark seems to be dark, but there's still light here and there to see, but it's dark, and like, that it? Gwyn leads the gods and men up an archtree to the outer crust of the world. I may adapt or refine it come the right time. His realm lies near the bottom of the world, among other things due to its age. meaning that he knew her when she was still alive. The characters keep referring to it as "the age of men", which resonates a lot with this idea. Known only as the Ashen One, this hero's objective and duty is to see to the destruction of the imposing Lords of Cinder to prevent Armageddon. Age of Fire is better than age of Dark Lore Hi all, recently made a post on the DS1 Reddit board, however it is equally relevant for DS3 and discusses why the Age of Fire may well be the better option to the Age of Dark. The action is analagous to spiritual cannabalism, but allows men to gain incredible power from each other. But the progenitor found a fourth, unique soul. Add a post. Cookies help us deliver our Services. From the "sin" of the disunion comes the Dark Soul, a black flame. The world is also as not directly stated. and it can technically be everlasting unless a new age of fire begins. I love the Dark Souls franchise, FromSoftware are one of my favourite developers, and I have sunk hours upon hours into their games. Does it have any n gative consequences. Despite the Age of Dark being a ubiquitous concept throughout the Dark Souls series, it is never the "current" state of the world in any of the existing games. The Dark Soul is defined by what is initially considered a weak power, and severely underestimated by at least Gwyn. The main lifeforms of blood that are notable are humanoid ones, but another important one is the Mushrooms, whose essence contains lightning, and allows or is resultant from their proliferation in the archtrees. If you don't talk to the Shrine Handmaid in Firelink until after you've talked to her in Untended Graves, she seems to recognize you, but catch herself. Frampt then, with less than stellar honesty, attempts to guide the undead to regain the Lord Souls and Lord Soul shards, which they must first do by gaining the Lord Vessel in Anor Londo, and then killing god-like entities that possess them. The ancestor claimed the Dark Soul and waited for Fire to subside. But as the other person said, without the Age of Fire, Gwen's power fades, thus the Seal of Fire goes away, thus no more Undead curse or Hollow. From this, we have disparity, change, and time, among various other metaphysical concepts. So if that's a potential future, then how could Ludleth know that Fire Keeper already? Seath, in harnessing this, allowed his body's soul power to slowly become crystal, which is the clear difference in appearance noted between his intro and game appearances. As far as I am aware, the nature of his treachery is not elaborated upon. But then there was fire, and with fire came disparity. I point to how the English mistranslation of finding the Lord Souls IN the first flame, when it was intended to be "near" or otherwise not indicative of location in the original Japanese. Upon death, their inner darkness trapped, Men reanimate but in the process deteriorate the pure essence that lines their humanity. Were the hollows from that first cutscene literally just mindlessly wandering in the dark until the fire appeared, and then 3 seemingly random ones got the Lord Souls? The Primordial Serpents, whose role certainly had some play before all this, start to have some clear agenda. Lifeforms of flesh and blood are born in the darkness, animated and given life by the First Flame. It is trapped within their bodies, and cannot leave. With the strength of Lords, they challenged the dragons. However, they can lose their memory and power upon death in the form of "soul", and the actual soul-power part of their humanity can be degraded and used-up, which gives risk to the darkness in the essence of the sprite being unleashed and going out of control, which can give rise to horrors (more on that later). "True undead" I believe because he was actually entirely invincible from damage unlike his brethern. This is in reference to how his Lord Soul is said to have been used in large part in "offering to death." Things always come full circle here. With his overwhelming power, he manifests remnants of the first flame as the Sun using his Lord Soul. I cannot claim that as to whether or not they could even move before the First Flame came into being, as whether they could or not fits into the rest of my theory rather equally. Dark Souls doesn't have a bad character creator, but just looking at a Reddit thread of Code Vein creations shows how dynamic it is. They are what become known as undead. Tis as if it were but yesterday. Much has happened since. " I do not regard this "blood-fire" as being a form of soul power, although one can claim that it is and is related to one's true essence, and perhaps that is what is drawn from in the pyromancy the Power Within. The game feels very responsive, and renovates (from DeS) or otherwise innovates alot of the core mechanics that make the sequels great games. It has power that can be harnessed but is in a way infinite, in very much an inverse to the Light Soul that has been used by the gods and is now indistinct liquid energy distributed amongst them (I believe alot is in Gwyn himself). The Witch became Lord, and she and her daughters became the first humanoid magic-users, known ad hoc as flame sorcery since it manipulated or generated the primeval, I suspect largely by using the power of the Lord Soul. The Moonlight Greatsword is false moonlight, revealed from flavor texts over the years. Thanks! Description [edit | edit source]. Later flavor texts suggest that somehow she began with control over it, but this control deteriorated, spawning the more chaotic and monsterous demons as her own mutated being becomes a seedbed. Short version, lazy presentation: Seath is a mutant of the Everlasting Dragons made of flesh. The Dark Soul. Gwen created the Seal of Fire to seal away humanity because he's a selfish jerk, and the Age of Fire keeps this alive. In fact, it is not even clear to what capacity he resembles them. ReddIt. They were by all means rather sad, pathetic, and unevolved, still resembling the muck-men that rose out of nothing at the beginning of blood-life. The source of all life is the Soul, but Humanity is within every Hollow. But I believe that the twinkling energy ultimately gave the everlasting dragons their undying nature, and Seath found this Primordial Crystal thing, which had the ability to crystallize soul-energy or perhaps that crystals are indeed simplistic solidified souls and that the Primordial Crystal allowed some form of them to be indestructable, like an auxilliary energy source to "power" durability. Now this is where I start to make very big claims. However through whatever means they were split, the state of the pair was entirely unnatural, as if splitting a sub-atomic particle into positive and negative constituents, but that analogy does not continue, because they were holy unequal pieces of this Lord Soul. >inbefore duh it's dark hurr hurr So far all Dark Souls games have taken place on the edge of transition to the age of fire to the age of dark. This is why the First Flame brought Disparity in the world: "before", time didn't flow, so things couldn't evolve or change. If you like, check out my lore post on the Primordial Serpents and DLC ending as interpreted from Dark Souls 3 on the Dks3 subreddit:https://www.reddit.com/r/darksouls3/comments/ernnof/truth_of_primordial_serpents_and_dragons_and/. If you play demon souls you get a bigger picture of the age of the ancients. I interpret Seath to actually have multiple obsessions in Dark Souls, but only one is confirmed as becoming immortal. Yes, I'm aware of the cyclical nature of the Dark Souls universe, but what I'm asking is how mankind is meant to benefit during this period of endless dark. To me it doesn’t make sense for demons souls to occur before ds. The Age of Ancients is an era in the lore of Dark Souls. The Witches and Nito do what you see in the cutscene, powered by their Lord Souls. Gwyn, Nito, and the Witch inherit the world. I live to read these kinds of things about videogames, but the Dark Souls series specifically. But Lord Gwyn trembled at the Dark. It seeks to regain its "power", but more accurately described is that it wishes to make itself whole, in a way you might imagine positive and negative particulates want to rejoin. Ahh. The Chosen Undead and the Cursed Undead both linked the flame in their respective games alongside Gwyn, so those cycles are confirmed. Dark Souls: Age of Fire #1 is an interesting and darkly gorgeous introduction to this story set in the famed age of the gods. The world is essentially inanimate and stone. The Dark Soul is what turns the dark into the Dark. The Age of Ancients: The Dark Soul and the First Men. And the black eyes that shimmer within, I see? I really love that, and I love how dense and well crafted this world is, but it also means that we don't have a lot of information about some stuff. I reference this to be the "Twinkle" referenced in Twinkling Titanite to be strange and of unknown origins. This is one of those posts that I will be referencing when asked "what's the story of Dark souls? Gi… With hollowing gone, humans would never lose their Humanity and souls, and therefore maintain individuality… and Disparity. In the End of Fire ending, we see what is apparently the begining of an age of dark, and the screen literally fades into total blackness, and I do believe that this isn't merely a transition screen, as the Fire Keeper says "Ashen One, hearest thou my voice still? Full of gray crags, archtrees, and Everlasting Dragons. ", "Darkwraiths harness the power of the Dark Soul found in each human. Its disunion from its compliment, the Dark Soul, essentially allowed the long-lasting potential of the its proper form to be circumvented and "burnt-up" in some capacity. And does Dark Souls … There is no disparity. Continuing the plan of the Furtive Pygmy and led by Darkstalker Kaathe, members of the Darkwraith covenant aim to be the new Dark Lord, to herald the Age of Dark.". Finding souls let them be individuals, and hollowing reverts people back to that primeval state. In a sense, this has proliferated its continuing appeal and analysis. Press J to jump to the feed. Found her, did we? I claim the most important takeaways from this is blood is the essence of most of what can be considered a lifeform in the Dark Souls universe, and that this is what carries the little piece of the First Flame that animates the lifeform. The dark within humanity can now fester, still and stagnant, leaking analogies of pus, rot, and corruption. We did all we could to spare her from them. The humanity sprites cannot avert their nature of pursuing that which they have lost/don't have, and yearn for soul and flame invariably (Pursuers flavor text). Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, https://www.reddit.com/r/darksouls3/comments/ernnof/truth_of_primordial_serpents_and_dragons_and/. Please enjoy. The ritual fails innumerable times. Crafting this theory was like making a macaroni-art plate, my mom is really proud and technically its art, but its as valuable only in so much as you the reader enjoys it. Parts of its construction suggest Izalith architecture, and it being built inside an archtree. Regarding Hollows in the Age of Grey: before the First Flame, they were probably wandering aimlessly and mindlessly, but keep in mind that there probably were years between the retrieval of souls and Gwyn's War on Dragons: Gwyn and the other Lords had to unite and equip an untold number of people before they could wage war, and we don't know how long this war lasted. Nito quite literally artificially creates death for these beings. DARK SOULS, a spiritual successor to 2009’s Demon’s Souls, is an action role-playing game that sees players exploring a demon-infested land of the undead in an attempt to retrieve their lost souls.Its realistic melee combat is bloody and gory, and requires players to make clever use of scarce artifacts that can restore health or allow players to engage ghostly specters. I believe that, fitting with the idea that the Lord Souls were originally pseudo-eternal sparks that provided a strong but humble warmth to nurture civilization, that above the outer crust of the world there existed the Moon, after the first flame that is. Edit:It had never occurred to me that Seath's betraying element was to reveal his kin's lack of lightning defense in their exterior. I don’t agree. Humans and other creatures have yet to make an impression upon the world. The Chosen Undead may choose to perpetuate the Age of Fire, or instead bring about the Age of Dark.There are no other requirements, aside from defeating the final boss, to access either ending. Among general decay and waning influence of the gods, Nito's power falters, and some men do not die. In this Age, I believe that since he was the only being considered "Undying", he essentially became a primeval deity that created tombs. Dark Souls: Age of Fire #3 art by Anton Kokarev. One thing though; he didn't get inspiration from the mushrooms with his lightning, it was seath the scaleless who told Gwyn about the dragons weakness. Hot New Top Rising. It was claimed in developer interview that the dragon of Ash Lake in-game did not feel pain when his tail was cut off because he is pseudo-mineral life, I can find this source at a later time, but this is what I base my interpretation of the everlasting dragons on. Before the first flame, how were things? Men now exhibit a power of undeath not yet seen by the Gods or other life, death is temporary cessation. One important thing that has always been there but which has been spelled out by the Repair sorcery in DS3 is that Light is Time. Darkness, which otherwise would just be the lack of flame and soul-power, can now expand and consume. It grows in power with time, in search of what it has lost. A land of gray crags, Archtrees and Everlasting Dragons. This lead him to discover another nature of the Dark, wherein the dregs of it will sink to the lowest depth possible, and form the core components of the world23. Dark souls is an incredible, fun, deep, rewarding game if you are the right person. Their life is entirely ephemeral, the passing of the Chaos flame that "powers" the demons as the First Flame powers bloodlife is inevitable, lacking any element of immune to the passage of time, and overall short-lived. I love this series particularly because of the lore. 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