This passage teaches us an important lesson. 'Without faith it is impossible to please him.' (3 Nephi 28:1-7) At the end of the Savior’s last visit to His twelve disciples as recorded in the Book of Mormon, He asked each of them what they desired. But the Lord says of all his saints, not that they will not die, but that 'those that die in me shall not taste of death, for it shall be sweet unto them; And they that die not in me, wo unto them, for their death is bitter.' (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 170-1). A few verses earlier it mentions that this is the same thing that John the Beloved asked for, so theoretically we have at least four people who are over 2000 years old, still on a mission for God. There are many things which belong to the powers of the Priesthood and the keys thereof, that have been kept hid from before the foundation of the world; they are hid from the wise and prudent to be revealed in the last times. 3 Nephi 28 - Online Resources for teachers and leaders of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints There are no exceptions, not even among translated beings. Currently, the life expectancy for a man in the United States is 73.6 years, for a woman is 79.4 years. They are administering to those who are heirs of salvation, and preparing their hearts to receive the truth, just as the farmer prepares the soil to receive the seed. 3 Nephi 28-30 3 Nephi 28. 37 But behold, since I wrote, I have inquired of the Lord, and he hath made it manifest unto me that there must needs be a change wrought upon their bodies, or else it needs be that they must taste of death; 38 Therefore, that they might not taste of death there was a achange wrought upon their bodies, that they might not bsuffer pain nor sorrow save it were for the sins of the world. 1:24 (23â24); 3Â Ne. "President Hinckley remarks that when people asked Joseph Smith what would be the most important thing they could do, the answer was repeatedly to share the word of the Lord with others. He recounts the story of Dan Jones, a Welsh convert to the Church who was with Joseph Smith on the night before the prophet was murdered. Somewhere in between them is are two odd states that we Mormons call transfiguration and translation - neither completely mortal nor completely immortal. They were sanctified in the flesh that they were holy (v. 39). We may fairly assume that the Lord does not currently reside in spirit paradise but rather in his rightful place on the right hand of the Father. (1 Cor. Read 3 Nephi 28:1-11.. How did Jesus speak to His disciples? Experts in human longevity and life expectancy have found that there are internal determinants of life expectancy. Mormon states that the three disciples have visited him, and that they will go abroad, but will be unknown among the people. Christ asked his apostles and disciples throughout time what they desired ( D&C 7:1 ; 2 Chronicles 1:7 ; 3 Nephi 28:1 ). This first day is recounted in 3 Nephi 11:3 through 18:39; while “Day Two” goes from 19:15 through somewhere in chapter 26 (perhaps verse 5 or verse 15); and “Day Three” appears to be 26:15 through 28:15. Elder Paul B. Pieper: “In the process of taking the Savior’s name upon us, we must understand that the cause or Christ and of His Church are one and the same. What did the three desire? Mormon learns about the nature of translated beings. 40 And in this state they were to remain until the judgment day of Christ; and at that day they were to receive a greater change, and to be received into the kingdom of the Father to go no more out, but to dwell with God eternally in the heavens. Bookmarks Edit. Either one has the faith to hear and obey the word of God and accept it as such, or one does not. 3 Nephi 28 And it came to pass that thus they did go forth among all the people of Nephi, and did preach the gospel of Christ unto all people upon the face of the land; and they were converted unto the Lord, and were united unto the church of Christ, and thus the people of that generation were blessed, according to the word of Jesus. Joseph Smith prophesied at that time that Jones would see Wales again before he died. They feared that their unusual request would be met with a reprimand. (D&C 63:50-51.) And it was forbidden them that they should utter; neither was it given unto them power that they could utter the things which they saw and heard.' (See Hebrews 11:35. 3 Nephi 28. Bookmarks. The difference is a matter of speed, for the time interval between each precept is much shorter. (Stephen R. Robinson, Following Christ, p. 107-8). Think of The Nephites were not to have an inferior or incomplete scriptural record. We can learn a lot about translated beings from descriptions of the three Nephites: "Now the doctrine of translation is a power which belongs to this Priesthood. It's fascinating that these righteous disciples were afraid to tell Jesus what they wanted. Deut. 36 And now behold, as I spake concerning those whom the Lord hath chosen, yea, even three who were caught up into the heavens, that I knew not whether they were acleansed from bmortality to immortalityâ. The disciples didn't ask to go speedily to spirit paradise after death. 3 Nephi 13. ☼ 3 Nephi 28:26–28: But behold, I have seen them, and they have ministered unto me. This verse can be confusing because the three Nephites were both transfigured and translated. Accordingly, the prophet Mormon learned spiritual truths like everyone else-through the spirit of prophecy and revelation-after fervent prayer. 5 And they sorrowed in their hearts, for they durst not speak unto him the thing which they desired. Hereby, he learned the nature of translated beings. In the meantime they are busy fulfilling their glorious mission in preparing the way for the elders of Israel to go forth with the message of salvation in all parts of the world." Read 3 Nephi 28:1-11.. How did Jesus speak to His disciples? 1 And it came to pass when Jesus had said these words, he spake unto his disciples, one by one, saying unto them, What is it that ye desire of me, after I am gone to the Father? Jacob said: 'Death hath passed upon all men, to fulfil the merciful plan of the great Creator.' They are to be hidden from the world. We would suppose that walls and other mortal barriers are also insignificant. Satan can only tempt those whom the Lord permits him to tempt (see Job 1-2). ), "Many have difficulty accepting the word of God because it comes from their contemporaries-their neighborhood bishops and local leaders who seem to be just ordinary men. Nine of them asked to quickly enter His kingdom when the work on earth was completed… 1:30; Morm. 30 And they are as the aangels of God, and if they shall pray unto the Father in the name of Jesus they can show themselves unto whatsoever man it seemeth them good. (vs. 13-14). 31 Therefore, great and marvelous works shall be wrought by them, before the agreat and coming day when all people must surely stand before the judgment-seat of Christ; 32 Yea even among the Gentiles shall there be a agreat and marvelous work wrought by them, before that judgment day. (Journal of Discourses, 25:236-37.). 14 And it was aforbidden them that they should utter; neither was it given unto them bpower that they could utter the things which they saw and heard; 15 And whether they were in the body or out of the body, they could not tell; for it did seem unto them like a atransfiguration of them, that they were changed from this body of flesh into an immortal state, that they could behold the things of God. And I knew such a man, (whether in the body, or out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) 3 Nephi 28:25-40. About 559–545 B.C. As Mormon finishes writing the account the Jesus’ ministry among the people, he is about to write the names of the three disciples granted immortality, but the Lord forbids it. (D&C 21:5.)" Presumably, those of the city of Enoch were thus protected as were Elijah and Moses after they were translated. They have had to live in the earth as we do. 8 And ye shall never endure the pains of death; but when I shall come in my glory ye shall be changed in the twinkling of an eye from amortality to bimmortality; and then shall ye be blessed in the kingdom of my Father. Three of the Nephites, chosen here by the Lord Jesus as his Apostles, had the same promise--that they should not taste death until Christ came, and they still remain on the earth in the flesh." 3 And he said unto them: Blessed are ye because ye desired this thing of me; therefore, after that ye are aseventy and two years old ye shall come unto me in my bkingdom; and with me ye shall find crest. (3 Nephi 28:10.) 3 Nephi 17 Still “Day One”. 3 Nephi 9. Prophets are not taught differently than the rest of us. (2 Ne. 28-30) Volume 30 (2018) Volume 29 (2018) Volume 28 (2018) 2017 (Vols. 3 Nephi 28:10 This is something that Christ said to the three Nephites who requested to remain on the Earth until the Second Coming, bringing people to the gospel. 39 Now this change was not equal to that which shall take place at the last day; but there was a change wrought upon them, insomuch that Satan could have no power over them, that he could not atempt them; and they were bsanctified in the flesh, that they were choly, and that the powers of the earth could not hold them. The stranger warns the members to accomplish some spiritual goal (food storage, genealogy, and so on) by a certain date because something apocalyptic is about to happen. 9 And again, ye shall not have pain while ye shall dwell in the flesh, neither sorrow save it be for the asins of the world; and all this will I do because of the thing which ye have desired of me, for ye have desired that ye might bbring the souls of men unto me, while the world shall stand. They were to remain in this translated state until the 'judgment day of Christ,' or in the words of the Savior until 'I shall come in my glory with the powers of heaven'" (adapted from Clyde J. Williams. 12:25; 3Â Ne. This is where the nine disciples wanted to go. 28) Interestingly, the miracle of modern medicine has made the ideal "age of man" attainable for most. Christ in America Timeline. His prophetic progress is much like that of Alma who at first did not know the state of the soul between death and resurrection. 19 And they were cast into prison by them who did not belong to the church. The forums in the Christian Congregations category are now open only to Christian members. What do these verses teach us about the three Nephites and the work that they are doing on the earth before Christ's second coming? 15:51-52.)" (Mortal Messiah, book 4, p. 388). 3 Nephi 28 (Below is a list of questions that help me think about each verse as I read it. 3 Nephi 28:25 I Was About to Write the Names of Those Who Were Never to Taste of Death, but the Lord Forbade: The prophet Mormon was going to write the names of the three translated Nephites in the Book of Mormon but the Lord would not allow him to give their names because they were to … 1. President Hinckley urges the members to follow Jones' example and 'set about to bring the souls of our families, neighbors, friends, and associates unto the Lord.' 3 Nephi 29. (The Power Within Us, p. 54). Vs 2- What did all but three of them desire? They will also be among the Jews, and the Jews shall know them not. Christian members please remember to read the Statement of Purpose threads for each forum within Christian Congregations before posting in the forum. Also, a child doesn’t play with a wild lamb, and there were no domesticated sheep in the Americas at this time, so this allusion would have made no sense to these people. One could argue that the Lord, as the premier scientist and physician, was well aware of the average rate of physical decay and therefore set the "age of man" appropriately. Jeffrey R. Holland said, "A person who is transfigured is one who is temporarily taken into a higher, heavenly experience, as were Peter, James, and John, and then returned to a normal telestial status." This distinction is made between the doctrine of the actual resurrection and translation: translation obtains deliverance from the tortures and sufferings of the body, but their existence will prolong as to the labors and toils of the ministry, before they can enter into so great a rest and glory." Their place of habitation is that of the terrestrial order, and a place prepared for such characters He held in reserve to be ministering angels unto many planets, and who as yet have not entered into so great a fullness as those who are resurrected from the dead. Prophets are more adept at drinking living water from a fire hydrant because they have faster spiritual digestive systems. TGÂ Israel, Scattering of; Israel, Ten Lost Tribes of. "Translated beings have not passed through death; that is, they have not had the separation of the spirit and the body. In the reign of Nerva John was recalled, and afterwards wrote his epistles. Transfiguration is a change wrought upon a mortal to enable him to temporarily withstand the presence of God and to behold the glory of heaven. Rather, they requested to live unto the age of man. I saw the transcendent beauty of the gate through which the heirs of that kingdom will enter, which was like unto circling flames of fire; Vs 5- Why did they sorrow? Obviously, he was one of the Three Nephites. 4 And when he had spoken unto them, he turned himself unto the three, and said unto them: What will ye that I should do unto you, when I am gone unto the Father? Mal. As recorded in Jn 21:21-23 and DC 7, John the Beloved was translated just like the three Nephites. "It is reasonable to believe that they were engaged in this work as far as the Lord permitted them to go during these years of spiritual darkness (the Great Apostasy). 'Blessed are ye because ye desired this thing of me,' he said." (Ensign, September 1993, Page 2)" (Hinckley Citations from the Ensign, "The Thing of Most Worth"), "The Father and Son desire to share even further their joy with us. Even when sincere and significant, those satisfactions only last 'for a season,' for He who has known full and true joy has so said. This is why Satan must be cast out during the Millenium, for the earth will be a terrestrial kingdom for those 1000 years, and Satan just doesn't belong to that order, not even as a devil. 3Â Ne. 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